The Gross National Debt

Tuesday, July 26, 2011

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It's likely the generation following me has never heard of Josef Mengele. Frankly, I'm not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing.
All righty then!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

Lemme stress here I am not defending him and what he did, yet some people will immediately accuse me of that. But a number of advances in the medical sciences are directly attributable to Mengele and the things he did.

More simply put - There are people alive today because of the experiments he conducted.

Complicates things eh?

Lemme give you another story.

1983-84. Dad found out he had pancreatic cancer. He tried, repeatedly, to get into experimental medical programs and was turned down every time. The cancer did kill him.

Dad knew he was dying. But. He wanted to get into one of the programs on the off chance it would save his life and the better chance that whatever was learned about him and his condition could help someone else down the road.
The line forms to the left.

See what I'm driving at? Medical experiments on humans.

Now there is a world of difference between my Dad who was a volunteer and the people Mengele experimented on.

And let us not forget the various human medical experiments conducted by the United States Government on unwilling and unknowing subjects. One for all my liberal readers who believe in our government -  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment Don't like that? http://www.naturalnews.com/019187.html

Now SOME of the experiments above did include volunteers. But I have to ask you - can a 5 year old honestly volunteer to be the subject of a medical experiment? What about when the parents are paid actual money and get a gift certificate to a toy store? Are the parents always capable of understanding the choice they make for their child.

Of course not.
Fire away!

So with all this in mind, I bring you one of the most important stories you will ignore.

The government is proposing rule changes to medical experiments on humans.
 http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/humansubjects/anprm2011page.html

In my brief perusal of the PDF file, most of what I saw was discussion of how to speed up the process of getting people in human medical trials.

Myself, I have no problem with that provided the experimental subject is fully mentally competent to make the decision to participate. But considering the state of cognitive abilities in this nation today, a nation more concerned with suing for money, who is on American Idiot tonight and where the suicide of a celebrity is more important that soldiers coming home in body bags - well, yanno what? I think we need more medical experiments on humans after all.

3 comments:

  1. Your second link ends up on the second part of a discussion. A link for the first part is provided, but I figured I would post it here for anybody who wishes to start at the beginning.
    It is a pretty good read. So are your comments about the state of things.
    Thanks Ben.
    http://www.naturalnews.com/019189.html

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  2. Bravo.

    How about some work in selective breeding? It's been done in slave societies, but seldom with any sensible goals. How about we build a large volunteer network and an organization to manage the attributes of the donors?

    I'l also all for any research into how we might lower the rampant levels of ignorance. That's really the issue a lot of the time. People can't give informed consent because they don't know what it means to be informed.

    Most of us are hardly surprised anymore when someone tells us "Here's your sign."

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  3. Justin and I were just talking about Mengele on Sunday night after watching a show about Auschwitz on National Geographic. The things he did were terrible, but I can't help but wonder what life-saving techniques he discovered in his atrocities. That is one of the hardest things to understand.

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