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Thursday, April 22, 2021

The problem with elves and blood

I warn you now, this is NOT for everyone. It involves maths, elves, iron, snakes, peanuts and allergies. I’ll warn you when the maths start so you can skip to the next maths-free paragraph.


This is one of those things that makes me an ubernerd and sometimes keeps me awake at night.


A while back, I noted that a lot of the mythology about elves says they are highly allergic to iron. I wondered, if elves are so allergic or iron, then how do they manage to fight human beings and not die from human blood exposure.


I was told by some fellow nerds, the amount of iron in human blood is not sufficient to cause an allergic reaction. I doubted that, but could not think of a way to challenge it.


I figured it out this evening.


Compare it to peanut allergies in people. Peanuts are a serious allergy and can kill people.


I also thought, while writing this, of doing various venoms, which take a far, far smaller amount to kill people. 


Peanut proteins are what cause allergic reactions and kill people. Venoms are also proteins.


Someone is gonna point out elf and human physiology are not the same. No, but they are close, hence the half-elf, which has a parent from both species. With that kind of genetic closeness and the reaction of elves to intoxicants same as humans, I think it is safe to posit a lot more similarities.


I am not gonna get into how a species that is allergic to the blood of the other can successfully reproduce with each other. At least not now. 


Dammit. Now I have something else to occupy my brain.


VENOM


MINOR MATHS! So, venom - "Australian Brown Snake (Pseudonaja textilis ), Australia. One 1/14,000 of an ounce of this venom is enough to kill a person."

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/webprojects2003/stoneley/strength.htm


MINOR MATHS! An ounce has 28.3495 grams.


Given those numbers (you can do the maths), it is now highly likely one drop of human blood is enough to kill an elf, especially since even a flesh wound with cold iron is enough to kill an elf. Even touching an iron sword causes immediate blisters, according to some of the literature.


Prove it? Sure.


BLOOD


MATHS! Two thirds of body iron is present in circulating red blood cells as hemoglobin. Each gram of hemoglobin contains 3.47 mg of iron; thus, each mL of blood lost from the body (hemoglobin 15 g/dL) results in a loss of 0.5 mg of iron.

https://www.medscape.com/answers/202333-153125/how-much-iron-is-in-hemoglobin


MINOR MATHS! A drop of water is roughly equal to .050 grams.


MINOR MATHS! 1 gram is 1,000 milligrams. 


MINOR MATHS! 1 gram is 1 milliliter, roughly.


Running the information through my head says that a drop of blood contains more iron, by weight, than the amount of brown snake venom needed to kill a person.


Now, if you look at how fast iron-poisoning kills an elf, in most of the literature, v. how fast brown snake venom kills a person, well, elves are WAY more reactive to iron than a human to snake venom.


PEANUTS


Back to the peanuts, which are far less lethal than a brown snake bite.


MATHS! "The dose calculated to elicit an allergic reaction in 1% of patients with peanut allergies was 0.052 milligrams of peanut protein, about the weight of a single grain of salt, says Haber. The eliciting dose for 5% of patients was calculated to be 0.49 milligrams of peanut protein, or about the weight of a single grain of sugar, says Haber."

https://www.uc.edu/news/articles/2021/03/uc-researcher-says-eliciting-dose-may-help-some-individuals-determine-how-much-peanut-is-too-much.html


Even highly allergic people can hold a peanut for a minute or so with no ill effects. Ingestion or absorption is where the problem happens. Elves touch iron and have a reaction.

Running these numbers, this also shows a drop of blood contains a LOT of iron. Given the peanut allergy numbers, that drop of human blood has plenty of iron to induce at least some allergic reaction in an elf.


More than a drop? Dead elf.


Imagine an elf already having an allergic reaction, even mild, on the field of battle. With each spot of blood, he gets a little more reaction.


In short order, in a really nasty fight, he is a goner.


BATTLE


In a pitched battle blood goes EVERYWHERE. I’ve never been in a pitch battle with swords, but I’ve butchered more animals than I want to count. Blood gets everywhere. I do not care how careful you are, you are going to get blood on you. Open wounds will get the critter’s blood in you.


That’s under controlled conditions where precision, patience and exacting work are found.


A battle is chaos.


Elves in battle are going to get blood on them and in them either through wounds, in the eye or mouth.

Dead elf. Every time.


CONCLUSION


Short of magic as a barrier to keep human blood away, in a real swords & spears battle with humans, elves are going to be in trouble unless they have seriously overwhelming numbers.

Tuesday, April 13, 2021

Not a religious discussion - Water into wine

This is not a religious discussion. It is a discussion about a chemical/biological process and culture.

In my studies of the Bible, I have often wondered about the wine mention in that book.

What was it? How strong was it? Was it consumed straight or diluted?

This guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6FVh-etEtw&ab_channel=ReligionForBreakfast addresses some of these questions, but not all.

On the first question, it pretty clearly was fermented juice. Grapes probably, but could be other fruits as well. As the gent in the video notes, the ancient Jews probably added other fruits to change the taste of whatever they were drinking.

It had to be fermented. Don't believe me? Buy a bottle of your favorite juice. Open it. Leave it on a counter for a day. Close it the next day. Fermentation IS gonna happen.


POTENT


How strong was it? Ahhh, now here's where we get into something.

Most Bibles I have use the word "strong drink" to refer to potent brews. The Holman Christian Standard Bible puts the word "beer" in that place. To date, I have not been able to learn why the translators chose beer. As the HCSB is mostly developed by Baptists, I have some strong suspicions about that translation.

I seriously doubt the translators are aware of something called ice distilling. More below. I reason this because academics, such as those translating the Bible, are highly specialized and not very conversant with matters outside their speciality. I can provide plenty of examples where extremely respected intellectuals are just flat wrong about things outside their area of concentration.

Is beer stronger than wine? Smoke this'n. http://archive.jsonline.com/entertainment/dining/15-beer-and-wine-facts-that-may-surprise-you-b99117052z1-227119841.html

I hear the arguments now. "But they had different yeast than we do now."

Yeah. The same yeast was used to make wine and beer. Stands to reason that the wine back then would still be stronger than the beer back then, given the same yeast. Grape juice has more sugars to ferment than the grains going into beer, despite the fact that part of the grains had to convert to sugars to ferment.

Arguments about the sugar content of grapes v. now are equally applied to the starch (which converts to sugar) content of grains back then v. now. Let's compare apple home brew to apple home brew here, please.

If you bothered to watch the video, you'll see a test run doing wine the same way (we think) it was done back then delivered a brew of 12 percent alcohol, or 24 proof. More than enough to get you knackered. By way of comparison, today's "fortified wines" like Mad Dog 20/20 and some others kick it at 26-34 proof.

I've made home brew using bread yeast, not the high potency stuff used by brewers today. I made some undistilled brew that would flatten you if you drank enough.

At the same time, as the video guys notes, one of the ancient historians BEFORE the time of Christ references a wine that would catch fire. Anything 40 percent or 80 proof will ignite. https://www.askmen.com/fine_living/wine_dine_archive_300/303_how-and-why-to-set-drinks-on-fire.html


ICE BREW

As best we know the ancients didn't have access to Grandpa's still. Also, alcohol above a certain percent kills the yeast that make it. How'd they manage to crank the proof? 

Ice distilling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UbnHw0qIzo&ab_channel=Whats4Chow

Northern Italy has mountains where the temps drop low enough to make me want to move to the equator. Ice distilling is certainly possible there. While the temps in the region Jesus hung out are not generally low enough to ice distill, traders could certainly bring the high proof stuff south.

Generally is not specific. Getting specific, they didn't have to go to northern Italy. https://www.timesofisrael.com/golan-sees-record-low-temperatures-during-storm/ That's plenty cold enough for ice distilling.


DILUTED OR NOT

So was the brew diluted?

We. Don't. Know.

A couple of Bibical sources mention diluting wine. 

Parts of the non-Protestant Bible (a whole 'nother discussion) mention mixing wine to dilute it.

Isaiah 1:22 says, "Your silver has become dross. Your best wine mixed with water." The reference to Jews who degraded their culture and religion is clear in context. If Isaiah says degrading the culture is bad, why would he use a wine reference to make clear, if diluting wine was not a bad thing.

More in the video.

At the wedding, when Jesus DID NOT turn the water into Tang, the wedding party said the host saved the best for last. Hrm.

An argument surely presented is: the historical documentation on hand says the Romans diluted their wine.

The Jews were Roman citizens, but were not Romans. As much as they were allowed to, the Jews of the time (at least the observant ones) did not follow Roman custom. Jewish writings well after the time of the Christ, almost certainly written by Hellenized Jews, speak to diluting wine.

Two verses in Proverbs specifically say, "You need to get that dude so drunk he passes out." Other Proverbs discuss the problem with drinking alcohol to access.

Diluted wine? Certainly in some cases. Straight wine? Equally certain in other cases. How do we know which is which? Gotta judge that by the when that section of the Bible was written.

Me? I'm on the side of a brew strong enough to make the average person wobbly after a cup or three.