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Friday, March 2, 2018

The problem is guns II - UPDATED

I hate rereading something just to get updates. So, here's the update. Original below.

The most comprehensive study on guns and gun violence I am aware of, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3828709/,  shows as gun ownership rises, gun violence rises. Yup. A study of nearly three decades.

"Gun ownership was a significant predictor of firearm homicide rates (incidence rate ratio = 1.009; 95% confidence interval = 1.004, 1.014). This model indicated that for each percentage point increase in gun ownership, the firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9%."

Before the gun grabbers get excited and the gun rights folks draw down on me, read further. 
Here's where some people start mumbling, morons start celebrating and a handful of folks like me want to say "BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU THIS!"

"For each 1 percentage point increase in proportion of household gun ownership, firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9%."
"For each 1 percentage point increase in proportion of Black population, firearm homicide rate increased by 5.2%."

AND

"For each 1-SD increase in proportion of household gun ownership, firearm homicide rate increased by 12.9%"


"For each 1-SD increase in proportion of black population, firearm homicide rate increased by 82.8%"


1-SD is one standard deviation. This is more math than I can handle.

What I can tell you from reading this report is race, income inequality and violent crimes increase the gun death rate in percentages and numbers far greater than gun ownership. Non violent crime increased the murder rate more than gun ownership. I can also tell you that locking more criminals up dropped the murder rate in a serious hurry.

THE ORIGINAL


I swear I thought I was done with this. My apologies for misinforming you. Maybe this is it.

This is Part II. Read part one here - http://porkbrainsandmilkgravy.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-problem-is-guns.html .

So, guns are the problem. But where is gun violence an issue? Fortunately, we have some fairly reliable information about this. We have some pretty good numbers showing clearly what the problem is. More importantly, we have solid facts, empirical evidence, telling us WHERE this problem exists.

Before I 'splain that, I tell you this. Some people have tried to address this situation. They get shouted down. They get shoved aside. They are insulted, denigrated, attacked and most disheartening to me, ignored.

I ain't talking about conspiracy theory fans either. (If you are a conspiracy theory fan, then please go away.)

Jesse Jackson in his famous "cut his nuts out" comment was attacking a former POTUS for perceived failures to address problems facing a segment of the national community. He decried the POTUS' response to growing violence in that segment of the community. Y'don't hear about that much. You just hear the emasculation comment, not the reason for it.

JUST THE AMMO, MA'AM


So, let's lay bare the barest possible facts. Let others interpret, spin, explain, whine and complain as they will. Cry HAVOC! and let loose the dogs of war. Praise the Lord and pass the ammo.

Then turn loose the spirit of UK Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli and say "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."

NUMBERS ARE RACIST


So what about those statistics?

Numbers, as I am about to present, are racist. Well, racist according to the people who cannot dispute facts and have to turn to invective and rhetoric.

So, as much as I DESPISE this word, I have to use it. I hate the word because dividing people into groups based on melanin content is sheer stupidity of the highest magnitude. We are people. Humans. Homo Sapiens. Period. However, some people will only understand things when broken down into moronic categories. So, on with the moronics.

US population:


Black or African American alone, percent, July 1, 2016,  13.3%

American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent, July 1, 2016,  1.3%

Asian alone, percent, July 1, 2016,  5.7%

Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent, July 1, 2016,  0.2%

Two or More Races, percent, July 1, 2016,  2.6%

Hispanic or Latino, percent, July 1, 2016, 17.8%

White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent, July 1, 2016, 61.3%

Got you some numbers? Good. 

MURDER IS RACIST


So let's look at another set of numbers and facts and see how murder is racist.

I tried to put these into a table that would come out here. I can't. Numbers make my head parts hurt.

You look at the page - https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

Fair warning. FBI stats are routinely under fire for UNDERREPORTING crime, especially where minorities are concered. Still, it is what we have.

So what you see here is black people kill other people in massively disproportionate numbers compared to the percentage of the general population. Yeah, racist, I know.

The worst offender is black people killing black people. In 2013:

2,245 black people killed 2.491 black people.

2,509 white people killed 3,005 white people.

That is 5,723 people murdered. Black people accounted for 44 percent of the murders. Black people account for 13 percent of the population.

Racist.

Black people account for less than 15 percent of the population, yet commit nearly four times the number of murders as other segments of the population.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU NOW



Where are the talking heads? Where are the interviews? Where the HELL is National Public Radio? Where the HELL is the Damnocratic Party?

Where the HELL are you and why are you not screaming about THESE NUMBERS?

How many inner city mommas have to cry over a casket before you get up in arms (arharhar) about these deaths? A handful of rich kids in an exclusive school in South Florida die and we have a national crisis. Black teens and young men die EVERY FREEKING DAY in our inner cities and you can't be bothered?

Racist much?

WEAPONS



Guns are responsible for 60 percent or the murders.

Looking at the (questionable but what we got) FBI data, in 2012 of 12,765 murders, 8,855 were done with guns. Narrowing that down, 6,371 were done with handguns. Rifles account for 322 of those deaths. Rifle types are not broken out.

An AR15 is a rifle. Based on the numbers, the AR15 is far less dangerous than a pistol (handgun). So why are you screaming BAN THE AR15?

NEED MORE STUDY


Some people complain the CDC is prevented, by federal legislation, from studying gun violence.

And?

What's to study? People kill people. The CDC needs to concentrate on the pathogens that kill and cripple people. We have all the evidence we need about gun violence.

What we do about it is another matter.

We have plenty of evidence showing where people kill people and who is killing whom. What we are doing about it is another matter.

Take the guns away, people will still people. In those 2012 stats, fully 1/4th of the murders, 3,920, were committed with something other than a firearm.

CALLING 'EM LIKE THEY ARE



The truth is you are screaming for gun control because you are scared. I get that. You are reacting out of emotion, not facts. Gotcha.

More importantly, you are acting out of what so many call "white privilege" because it is white children who are dying.

Scream on. Demand new laws. The fact is, you don't give a damn about the young black people who are dying in our streets. You only care about people who look like you do.

For every child killed in a school shooting, several die in our streets. And you say nothing.

Here is a salve for your conscience - http://snapjudgment.org/counted-oakland-story .

1 comment:

  1. This is two times in a row that I have agreed with you. I need to see a doctor.

    ReplyDelete

Hi. I welcome lively debate. Attack the argument. Go after a person in the thread, your comments will not be posted.